
Welcome to Behind the Stays — a podcast that shares the stories behind your favorite boutique hotels, short-term rentals, and hospitality brands and the hosts, operators, and entrepreneurs who’ve brought them to life. Every Tuesday and Friday you’ll meet the military veterans, retired flight attendants, tech entrepreneurs, school teachers, single moms, hoteliers, and real estate investors who are all, in their unique ways, shaping the future of travel and hospitality. Discover how these visionaries — from all over the world — have built stunning landscape hotels in the mountains, designed bohemian bungalows on the beach, erected eclectic off-grid and nature-immersed escapes, and so much more. Behind the Stays is brought to you by Journey — a first-of-its-kind loyalty program that brings together an alliance of the world’s top independently owned and operated stays and allows travelers to earn points and perks on boutique hotels, vacation rentals, treehouses, ski chalets, glamping experiences and so much more. Behind the States is hosted by Zach Busekrus, Head of the Journey Alliance.
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Friday Jul 18, 2025
Friday Jul 18, 2025
Today I’m thrilled to be joined by Brandon Gore—someone whose life journey seems like it’s packed enough experiences for several lifetimes. Brandon’s story is anything but ordinary: from leaving high school behind at 17 to opening hotels, scaling sales operations across multiple Marriott properties, and then making the boldest leap yet—founding his own concrete design company.
But here’s where things get even more fascinating. Brandon didn’t just stop at concrete countertops or sinks. Inspired by sustainable architecture and a chance encounter with a rammed-earth house, he dove headfirst into the world of rammed earth construction, a building method that’s thousands of years old, yet remarkably innovative and profoundly rare today. His vision has led him to craft spaces that are not just visually stunning, but also deeply meaningful and enduring.
Today, Brandon is channeling his passion into his most ambitious project yet: Outlier, an extraordinary boutique hotel nestled in Eureka Springs, Arkansas. It’s not just any hotel—this property promises a luxury experience intertwined with adventure, sustainability, and truly groundbreaking architecture.
In this episode, Brandon shares his remarkable journey, the story behind why he chose rammed earth, and what it takes to build something genuinely unique in an age of repetition. Whether you’re intrigued by innovative construction, inspired by entrepreneurial grit, or simply love a great story, Brandon’s journey is one you won’t want to miss.
So sit back, grab your favorite drink, and join us as we dive into a conversation packed with inspiration, determination, and the power of building something that stands the test of time. Without further ado, here’s my conversation with the exceptional Brandon Gore.
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Behind the Stays is brought to you by Journey — a first-of-its-kind loyalty program that brings together an alliance of the world’s top independently owned and operated stays and allows travelers to earn points and perks on boutique hotels, vacation rentals, treehouses, ski chalets, glamping experiences and so much more.
Your host is Zach Busekrus, Head of the Journey Alliance. If you are a hospitality entrepreneur who has a stay, or a collection of stays with soul, we’d love for you to apply to join our Alliance at journey.com/alliance.
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